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Nov 4 2012 12:24pm
Hi,

I'm just here to encourage you to read this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote him :

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Newton and Einstein were great scientists and great mystics. Science and religion have different pieces to the puzzle. Until now, no one has united religion and science. People had to choose between tradition and truth. We need both.

What if the Bible and all other religious books are being misinterpreted?

What if the truth is in the Bible and many other religious books, but no one knows what it is? This book uses science, philosophy, religion, and art to reveal the unseen truth. It shows that most of the great prophets, philosophers, and poets are saying the same thing, but almost no one knows what it is.

Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think.

Religious books are not just filled with myths and morality tales as many people believe. The truth is in them; they are just being misinterpreted by religions.

The new interpretation will be the best thing that ever happened to religion.
Religions will make sense, and people will be able to understand them for the first time. This will make religions much more popular than they have ever been. Traditional religions will not change much; people will just see the truth in them.

Religion without the truth is like a light bulb without electricity. With the truth, religions will be reborn, and there will be an explosion in spiritual growth. Religions will no longer be based just on blind faith.

Just the truth: The truth about life and death can be explained without any reference to religion, and some people may prefer that, but more than half of the human race is involved in a religion. Thus, to be the ultimate explanation of the truth, it must include religion, all religions. This is the only way to unite us all.

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein


You do not have to be smart to know the truth, but you do have to be rational, be honest, and know a few things that could not be known until now.


Please read the whole book before you post your opinion of it here... I do not ask you to blindly accept everything that is said, just to not judge something from what you think it is after few pages you read.
If you do not want to read the whole book, because you hate what it says in the first pages, you do not have to post here... I understand it can be hard to accept, it is ok, just keep going with your life.
I'll be happy to answer any question, but most answers are already in this book.

If you don't like religion, there is a version of this book without religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I asked mod to close the old thread for 2 reasons :
The last video I post was actually consufing bullshit.
I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is nothing to debate about, the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found).
So on this new thread I will mostly post quotes from The Present, or interresting (truthful) music/videos/quotes (from other sources) that I find... I find new intesrresting stuff almost every days (almost because I do not always have time to seek).
If you also have some truthful things to share, it is open of course.
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Nov 4 2012 12:41pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 4 2012 01:24pm)
Hi,

I'm just here to encourage you to read this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote him :



Please read the whole book before you post your opinion of it here... I do not ask you to blindly accept everything that is said, just to not judge something from what you think it is after few pages you read.
If you do not want to read the whole book, because you hate what it says in the first pages, you do not have to post here... I understand it can be hard to accept, it is ok, just keep going with your life.
I'll be happy to answer any question, but most answers are already in this book.

If you don't like religion, there is a version of this book without religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I asked mod to close the old thread for 2 reasons :
The last video I post was actually consufing bullshit.
I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is nothing to debate about, the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found).
So on this new thread I will mostly post quotes from The Present, or interresting (truthful) music/videos/quotes (from other sources) that I find... I find new intesrresting stuff almost every days (almost because I do not always have time to seek).
If you also have some truthful things to share, it is open of course.


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Nov 4 2012 02:27pm
>500 posts about this nonsense wasn't enough?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64255162&f=119&o=525
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Nov 4 2012 02:50pm
Stop with this search for the truth please. You don't even have to do this because one way or another, the truth will show itself in due time.
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Nov 4 2012 02:58pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ 4 Nov 2012 22:27)
>500 posts about this nonsense wasn't enough?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64255162&f=119&o=525


Obviously not.

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Stop with this search for the truth please. You don't even have to do this because one way or another, the truth will show itself in due time.


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What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.


Quote from sheep by Pink Floyd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcRYdVlGXNQ

Quote (GodSmiter @ 4 Nov 2012 23:05)
Why do you keep bringing up that its hard to accept the truth?

Also, it's not like everything you're saying is an absolute truth; so do you see why this is irrelevant?


Because it is actually hard.
As I said on the original post, I will not debate about truth, truth is truth and will remain truth no matter what you think.
If you have something to share, share it, else just keep going with your life.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Nov 4 2012 03:13pm
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Nov 4 2012 03:05pm
Why do you keep bringing up that its hard to accept the truth?

Also, it's not like everything you're saying is an absolute truth; so do you see why this is irrelevant?
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Nov 4 2012 04:13pm
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I believe original football is soccer... What you call football is not played in england, and both soccer and rugby come from england.


Association Football and Rugby Football came about at the same time as a split in the ideology of the English public schools that codified the original rules, and American Football is an offshoot of Rugby Football.

I'm always glad to educate people, feel free to ask me any other questions you might have. :)
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Nov 4 2012 04:36pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 5 Nov 2012 00:13)
Association Football and Rugby Football came about at the same time as a split in the ideology of the English public schools that codified the original rules, and American Football is an offshoot of Rugby Football. 

I'm always glad to educate people, feel free to ask me any other questions you might have.  :)


I don't need education, truth/life is all I need.
Edit : about education I will repost this great vid I found yesterday :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZHNjc4Xk0&feature=share&list=PLMTk07rWd6iptZg-Cj0BZHcCnLnD9_rSD

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Nov 4 2012 04:37pm
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Nov 4 2012 04:41pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ 4 Nov 2012 17:36)
I don't need education, truth/life is all I need.


Your disdain for education is obvious in the way that you are clearly poor at the use of logic, or what I would call a "Bullshit detector." :( Education helps people to avoid adopting contradictory and stupid ideologies.

The central idea of everything being one is interesting and aligns with my own beliefs, for the record. But the conclusions that book draws ("Plants are like your legs and you're connected to your legs, thus you're connected to plants" for instance) are literally logically inconsistent. I can't remember the exact name of the fallacy, but that's a literal logical fallacy. There are much, much more internally consistent and intelligent philosophies that can get you closer to understanding the truth.

Here's an excellent example: http://www.kybalion.org/TheKybalion.pdf
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