Wrong, you have no idea what you are talking about. Compare a 450 ED stygian ( hell, lets give matri a chance, compare a 300 ED stygian <--- granted min will be lower ) to a 450 ED Matri, and you'll see such an insane amount of damage difference. IN-GAME

Dispute it further and I'll just post screenshots as proof in single player :/

and +2 jav skill... yeah lol... real advantage there unless you are a CS zon... in which case these javs would be greatly wasted.



Those javs ^ kill those matris posted in this thread.

This post was edited by Engel on Feb 21 2010 03:31pm

10/10 if real

I said it before and I'll say it again. Use a damage calculator.

I couldn't care less what the buggy ingame display says.

This post was edited by KillersDream on Feb 21 2010 06:56pm

wow gfg
10/10 if real

10 / 10

It's not about a "buggy display," it's about dex-str calculation that differs the javs from each other. Images below are not closed battle.net items they are for example purposes only. But I'm sure killersdream would love to post more hero editor fakes and claim they were real.

mat javas are faster than stygian pilums

i know that doesnt mean anything to you cookie cutter faggots but mat javas help reach the fury/jab breakpoints on good builds

shitty cuz on kds char not mine

thats how it goes right?

Buddy, you lose only 1 BP frame rate in jab, which if I recall correctly is only .5, so really there is virtually no loss, and with 30-40 IAS ( on jav ) you have the same throw frame, and a gain of 2k+ damage... cookie cutter? Are you kidding me?

and don't use the word "faggot"

and if you are a rand fort hugger, then Hyperion > Matri anyday

I'm aware of the difference in the dex-str calculation.

use:
450 ed weapon
780 ed from offweapon
70 offweapon max dmg
300 dex
156 str

avg mat dmg: 5192
avg pilum dmg: 5229

difference: 37 (less than 1%)

but mats have +2 amazon skills and +2 jav skills

This post was edited by KillersDream on Feb 21 2010 09:30pm