Uhh genius, +2 ama is not a base jav spawn, it is an individual affix spawn. +2 jav is the base jav spawn. Use your eyes on the screenshots, talk about someone in denial, damage calculators aren't 100% flawless, disputing the obvious that Stygian provides a great deal more average damage.

Here lets go with hyperion, oh look at that, 306 to 544/267 to 445 -10 speed jav just got beat by a 251 to 451/190 to 467 -10 speed jav? What the hax!?




Incase you are still crying about that +2 java Look at all that fabulous damage gained... oh yeah...


This post was edited by Engel on Feb 21 2010 09:42pm

I provided the real numbers. You're relying on the lying character screen and your character stats are not what I mentioned (over 600 dex? over 160 str? lol)

With the stats I mention, mats have nearly identical average damage AND have +2 jav skills AND have better speed.

easily the best if real..

any real zon player knows thats speed>minor amount of damage

the goal is to have max bps at minimal sacrifice

*rolls on floor laughing hysterically* XD I rely on character screen huh? Then explain how those Hyperion javs are beating matriarchal javs, if the character screens are wrong? It's the ratio between dex-str , it isn't a bug, it isn't incorrect. You are the one that is incorrect XD

and what is your obsession with +2 jav skills? like what? 15-30 total damage gained?

Edit: Oh look, now lets see here, over 600 dex? possible... it's called, all points in dex? Over 160 STR? its called Storm Shield... seriously now? The entire build is built around legit items, legit character builds. But I guess you, being a complete wannabe elite knowitall wouldn't know the difference between a legit fake, and a fake fake. Of course the items stats are perfect in terms of legit items. Possible but highly unlikely.



I didn't realize .5 speed lost on jab, vs 2k damage gained was a minimal sacrifice....

This post was edited by Engel on Feb 21 2010 10:57pm

I'm aware of the difference.

It's something like 75/75 vs 50/80. With the stats I mentioned, the difference in average damage is less than 1% and mats are faster with more skills. I would link to a good damage calculator but it's probably against the rules.

I'm done arguing with you.

Done arguing because you realize I am right, thanks for proving my point "It's something like 75/75 vs 50/80." the average is not the same, common sense here... the stats granted on the non class javs, obviously grant more damage... How are you even debating this?

Oh by the way I added this to my initial post when you posted.

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Edit: Oh look, now lets see here, over 600 dex? possible... it's called, all points in dex? Over 160 STR? its called Storm Shield... seriously now? The entire build is built around legit? spawnable items( but fake hero editor items ) , legit character builds. But I guess you, being a complete wannabe elite knowitall wouldn't know the difference between a legit fake, and a fake fake. Of course the items stats are perfect in terms of legit items. Possible but highly unlikely."

This post was edited by Engel on Feb 21 2010 11:12pm

.10/10

This post was edited by Gosuckadig on Feb 21 2010 11:01pm

Maybe you nerds should put this much effort into getting laid instead of arguing for hours over breakpoints and damage calculators.

Jealous cause can't argue with intelligence?

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