Nah, even if they tele they wont get many hits on you. And I have beaten (well gotten them to town and start crying anyway) several bvbs this way, so it must not be that bad.

bes lets conisder 1 thing.

ill most likelly use arach in pubs instead dungos bc my glvoes will be dracs and i need some fcr to catch casters.

im just wondering 20 or 40??

will 20 be enough>??

i dunno but i use 20 only vs good necros, i have np vs sorcs with 0fcr lol, but thats me, I have lots of practice
I think you should be aiming for 40fcr(arach and 2fcr rings preferably with res/mana)


that is news to me, wanna try that with my bva?

if you tle right you can actually take the bowas ez with no doom ...
good pub set up is trangs+arachni+ravens+highlords
and recently mcm suggested hsaru's belt+boots for more ar mana and stacked light res -i'm going to test that as soon as i find the belt (nobody has one ft , luckyly found the boots myself )

This post was edited by mainaman on Jun 15 2006 10:03pm

I prefer 40 fcr. But 20 can definately work as well.




no thanks. I meant those clueless barbs that think every barb is a bvb. You would definately get hits on me and kill me. I admit that bva's and bvb's that have even the slightest clue own me.

you have 0 ow with this setup, gl vs es sorcs
and hsarus doesnt give mana or light res wu talking about?and you definetely dont need ar because 1)you are not bvb 2)you lose a lot of good mods

well ive played baba a little b4 and see big diff btw 20-40 but i guess ill go with 20 so i got huge ar from ravens + ow from dracs

o yeah?
BEAST- 25% ow
gores -10% ow

now im not saying this is enough but in most cases it works just fine , it works very well if you can trigger venom.
this set up is good only for fast kills ,like killin ppl that go town when almost dead ,or when dueling 1vs many
otherwise dracks is better choice
Any way try trangs you might like them in sertain situations

AS for the hsarus here is some thoughts on it . this is not my interpretation its MCM's and it is at least worth of testing imo

Speaking of Hsarus btw -- I was messing around with it in pubs, and it's pretty cool actually.

You get 10x your char level in AR from the boots + belt combo, plus the two items have 20% FRW, 20 life, 20% cold res, and 25% fire res.

Because you get so much AR from this, you can use whatever FCR rings you want, lets say you use:

2x Eagle Turns (USWest, 10FCR/58AR/31LIFE/71MANA/15RESALL)
Hsarus Boot/Belt
Trangs Gloves

These give me:

1076 AR
40% FCR
20% FRW
80% Cold res
55% Fire res
30% Light/Psn res
82 Life
142 Mana

Compare this to the trang/arach/imps/ravens setup, which gives you:

500 AR
40% FCR
30% FRW
20% FHR
40% Cold Absorb
30% Cold res
35% Fire res
49% Light res
22% Psn res
80 Mana
1 Skill
40 Dex

Now, I don't happen to need the FHR since I use 4x 5/5 SC's, so I can't get to 86% FHR w/ 20 from boots anyway. If you're using highlords, you already have more light res than other resists, so that's not so important on boots. So the only BIG advantage that the second setup gives you is protection vs cold sorcs, but then if you use rings w/ high cold res on the hsarus setup, that's probably a moot point.

The hsarus setup offers much more life and mana (even accounting for the +1 skill from arach that you give up), and a huge amount more AR, especially if you enchant.

It's also a lot better than using angelics because you get the Deadly Strike from highlords, and you don't have a mana problem.

w/ hsarus you're already 35% light res ahead since you use highlords + an FCR ring. But you can also swap a ring for a rune loop and be 97% ahead. With angelics all you can really do is use resistance boots, the best on USWest being WBrands w/ 48% light res. This puts hsarus 49% light res ahead AND you havn't dropped any DS getting the extra resists, whereas with angelics you give up your gores and are now ~36% DS down on the hsarus setup!

Also hsarus makes a nice pub setup since it will allow you 17kAR/40fcr/39%DR and really well stacked resists, versus the typical raven pub setup.

Also see above notes regarding hsarus setup and the additional speed/DS that it gives the bow. I'm listing 377-1628 w/ fort + widow, and I have 69% DS, making an average of 637 - 2751. Hardly ignorable damage.

SO from what he said about Hsaru's set up it seems atleast worth trying it ,at least ill do it if i can find the damn belt somehow.

This post was edited by mainaman on Jun 16 2006 07:10am

and a small adition to hsarus argument

AGAIN MCM CITED HERE

Here's something I can do w/ my barb's 64/57 setup + hsarus:

Hams: FORT + ARR + HIGHLORDS + RAVENS(2) + DRACS + HSARUS + BOWSWAP = 23322 AR
Mage: FORT + ARR + HIGHLORDS + RLOOPS(2) + DRACS + HSARUS + BOWSWAP = 18000 AR

w/ Angelics the best AR I can get is 28000. Would you rather have 23322 AR and 56% DS, or 28000 AR and 35% DS on your Grief hand? Plus you can't touch that mage setup's light res w/ angelics, and not the AR OR light res w/ ravens. You could use whatever rings you wanted, be BM and use wisps for example, and still have excellent AR.

For kicks, 64/57 lets you do angelics + hsarus + the rest above, giving 36.5k AR.

i gotta question

why not using some res boots instead gores if u dont duel melee chars?

u want maxc nice res dont u???