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Feb 8 2008 04:56pm
I have a level 87 Bone Necro who uses his 125 fcr, infinity merc, bone spear, golem, and corpse explosion, he's set up to be mainly dueler but I found him to be a very reliable key runner as well...

Lately, though, I've been having shit luck... 10-20 runs in full games of all key-droppers (Nihlathak, Summoner, and Countess) and not a SINGLE key. That's 30 to 60 of these guys killed and I've yet to find a key.

What all factors into key droppage? Does a full game even matter? I feel like I get more keys in solo games. Also, he has ~100 MF, but I don't think that factors into key drops...

Basically this is a whine thread coupled with a quick question... What changes key drop rate, if anything?
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Feb 8 2008 05:01pm
1 key every 30 runs i though pretty high

something like that

uh dont matter i think full or solo
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Feb 8 2008 05:02pm
Quote (PokerStars @ Fri, Feb 8 2008, 06:01pm)
1 key every 30 runs i though pretty high

something like that

uh dont matter i think full or solo


I used to get a key every game. Easy.

Edit: I should note that this was last ladder.

This post was edited by Erados on Feb 8 2008 05:02pm
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Feb 8 2008 05:29pm
odds for keys in solo game

1 : 12 Nihlathak - [H] Halls of Vaught - {mlvl 92}
1 : 11 The Summoner - [H] Arcane Sanctuary - {mlvl 80}
1 : 14 The Countess - [H] Tower Cellar Level 5 - {mlvl 82}


Odds for keys in full game

1 : 8.81 Nihlathak - [H] Halls of Vaught - {mlvl 92}
1 : 7.81 The Summoner - [H] Arcane Sanctuary - {mlvl 80}
1 : 10 The Countess - [H] Tower Cellar Level 5 - {mlvl 82}

MF plays no part in the drop calculations
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Feb 8 2008 05:35pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Fri, Feb 8 2008, 06:29pm)
odds for keys in solo game

1 : 12 Nihlathak - [H] Halls of Vaught - {mlvl 92}
1 : 11 The Summoner - [H] Arcane Sanctuary - {mlvl 80}
1 : 14 The Countess - [H] Tower Cellar Level 5 - {mlvl 82}


Odds for keys in full game

1 : 8.81 Nihlathak - [H] Halls of Vaught - {mlvl 92}
1 : 7.81 The Summoner - [H] Arcane Sanctuary - {mlvl 80}
1 : 10 The Countess - [H] Tower Cellar Level 5 - {mlvl 82}

MF plays no part in the drop calculations


Thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for.
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Mar 18 2008 09:07am
If you're just doing quick keyruns in a passworded game...does it matter for drop odds if you make the game for one player or eight?...since you will be the only player in the game anyway...or are you just making the monsters harder to kill and not changing the drop odds at all?

Thanks,
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Mar 18 2008 09:40am
Quote (TopGun_TG @ Tue, Mar 18 2008, 11:07am)
If you're just doing quick keyruns in a passworded game...does it matter for drop odds if you make the game for one player or eight?...since you will be the only player in the game anyway...or are you just making the monsters harder to kill and not changing the drop odds at all?

Thanks,
-TG


if you are on bnet and you make a pswd game, there is only 1 player in the game and the first set of drop odds is what you want to look at.

Maximum allowable characters plays no effect on monsters.
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Mar 18 2008 10:51am
Wow, thanks...that's good to know...no way am I ever doing 8 players again then, lol!!!
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Mar 18 2008 11:34am
Quote (Erados @ Fri, Feb 8 2008, 11:02pm)
I used to get a key every game. Easy.

Edit: I should note that this was last ladder.


same here. they must have changed it. i think it was about 30% chanse before
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Mar 18 2008 11:42am
Quote (zippo88 @ Tue, Mar 18 2008, 01:34pm)
same here. they must have changed it. i think it was about 30% chanse before


quit talking out of your arse. The drop odds listed above are 100% accurate.
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